Hot Lap Event Week 33/34 - (Build 282+) Pagani Zonda R at Belgian Forest

[Rob Prange]

Event details & rules:
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Where is it? Accessed via the Events button on the main menu in game, use the scroll buttons at the top
Car & Track:Pagani Zonda R at Belgian Forest
Car Setup allowed: Yes
Event Window: Friday August 17th 13:00 UTC until Friday August 24th 12:00 UTC
Build required: Build 282+

Have fun guys

[kobus999]

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[yvanmuller683]

my first Setup

[hoodi4cars]

I posted this in the Build discussion thread already, but I guess it fits here too (Even better, imo). Please let me reference this:

As this is a post where I will nag a bit, let me start with a little prelude saying that I love the overall progress of the game, I spent about 10 hours @Eifelwald last week, the new trees look awesome, I love the rain, you guys rock, etc.

Ok so now that you're in a good mood, here it comes:

I was just doing the event in the Zonda R at Belgian Forest, and I had the same strange dissatisfactory feeling that I had at the event with the Hyuara two weeks ago. There's something to the Paganis that hinders me from having fun driving those cars. It can't be the general physics model, because I had the time of my life in Caterham @Eifelwald last week, and with the F1 @Connecticut, and lots of other cars on other tracks. So I tried to analyze what exactly annoys me with the Paganis, and I think I know what it is now:

First of all, the FFB strength seems to be very low on these cars by default. I had to raise the FFB strenght from 75 to 100 to have the feeling I was actually sitting in a car (with 75, it felt like a Kart). But that's not the main problem. The main problem is: These cars understeer quite heavily, the tyres start squeezing quickly, and when that happens, i.e. the car starts loosing its ability to steer and begins to just slip straight forward due to understeer, for me there's no FFB change that reflects that! No change in the force of the center spring of my wheel, none! Therefore, cornering in these cars feels very numb, you hear the tyres squeezing and you see the major understeer, but you can't feel anything.

Oddly enough, this only applies for understeer, not for oversteer. Oversteer feels good, I can I can very weel feel if I loose grip due to oversteer and start spinning. But when understeer kicks in, there's nothing going on in my wheel.

Do you guys feel the same thing, please let me know. Hop in the Zonda, attack a corner at quite a speed, and take note of the tyre squeezing and when the car begins to slip forward due to heavy understeer. Do you feel any change in your center spring force when that happens? Cause I really don't.

[Joni Varis]

Well i said when the first version of Zonda R appeared in the game that steering just feels totally unnatural and unresponsive to steering inputs no matter what you do with setup, that havent really changed one bit since. In Eifelwald some weeks ago it was ok as there aint much slow corners and in high speeds the feeling aint so odd, but in normal race track like this its impossible to steer precisely with this "weirded steering". Huayra also has similar effect but its not as bad as this. In overall it feels like it has some sort of speed sensitivity or gamepad smoothing enabled all the time.

I think im gonna skip this event completely as i just dont enjoy driving this car at current state.

[Oliver Rademacher]

...blasphemy^^

[hoodi4cars]

Oliver don't you think that the Zonda feels a bit numb compared to cars like say the Caterham or FA?

[krivjur]

Unfortunately there isn't many cars driven with bigger rim that feel decent in pCARS. Maybe the only ones for me right now are Asano X4 and Caper, and X4 should probably be driven with a smaller rim (A5 DTM has 28cm diameter). First I wasn't going to drive on this event, but I decided to give it a few laps at least. I think I drop chasing lap time and see if I can get it feel ok for myself. Paganis seem to win the votes for some reason.

[Fabian Baumgarten]

ok, i just did 2 laps in time trail, because i don't want to destroy the competition. And the realy sad thing is that i had to realize that you can still cut at eau rouge and les combes. so there has nothing changed since one of the very first events ( i think it was Asano Lm11 at Belgian Forest).
It was discussed very hard in the thread about this event and I already told this in the track issue thread, too.
So, when will you fix this?

[Barbarian772]

In my opinion there's no need for a fix, because even in formula 1 the race line is sometimes outside the actual track if there's tarmac outside the kerbs....